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tonight on "worlocus" -- the war in iraq. a strongndunequivocal defense by itain'sormer prime minister on his decision to go to war. snoxt an island paradise, e secret tal of ending the war in afghanistan and gettinghe liban to join the government. morthan two weeks after the devastating earthquake in haiti, the growing teat of disease among those stl in desperate ed of help. > andar away from conflict and catastrophe, life aong the pengns. up close and personal i patagonia. from the diffent perspectives of reporters d analysts from ound the globe, is is "worldfocus." major suort has been provided by rosalind p. walter anthe peter g. peterson undation, dedited to promoting fiscal responsibility and addressg key economic challenges cing america's future
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anadditional funding is provided bthe following supporters -- good evening welcome to "worlocus." i'm daljithaliwal in new york. although the united stes still ha more than 100,000 tros in iraq briin's involvement ended last year whenhe cotry with drew its forces. but for britain, the emotional cost of the war continues, especially for the families of 179 british troops who were killed in iraq. the families we among those paying close aention today as the former brish prime minister, tony blair, mounted a strong defensef every dcision hemade as he led briin io the war. the settin wa britain's most wide ranging investation into the conflict. and it brought bck all of the issues and justifications of e
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war. the september 1 attacks. the purported weapons of mass destruction. e brutal leadership of saddam hussein and his use of chemil weapons. in tonight's lead focus, defendg the war in iraq. lucy manning of our british partner itn watched as passions ran high, both inside and outside the hearing. >> reporte they call him a war criminal. they belve he i the prim minister who toobritain into an illeg ar. this is not a trial but t demonstratorwould lik it to be one. waitin to he fro some of the families, this is theast chanceor swers. mr. blair's chance to testified his legacynd reputation. he looke a little pensive but soon got into his stride,
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admitting that after september 11, the erican and british positions on iraq have hardened. >> the sanctions cod not contain hiand he was not prepar to allow the under inspectors back in. e option of removing saddam was there. and that option incidentally had always been there. after september 11, it changed, s our calculation mine, and i think the americans as wl, that we couldn't go on li this. >> reporter:ut mr. blair denied agreeing on acove deal with george bush too to war when the two ttate in apri 2002, an agreement that has been claid was in eect signed i blood. >> the only commment i gave and gave this very openly at the meeting was commitmentto dealith saam. what i was sing to present bush and i wasn't saying this privately, i was sayinit puicly, was were going to be with you in confronting and dealinwith thisthreat. there was no, i mean, the one thin i was not doing was
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dissemblinin that. >> reporte pressed on the controversial dossiewas the misleading claim that sadm's apons coulde ready in 45 minute the first real admission of a mistake. >> i didn't focus on it a great deal at the me. it was mentied by me and then never actuay mentioned again by me. as i indicated to heutler inquiry in the ke of what subsequently happened, and wh subsequently took on, itould have most certaly have been better to ve corrected it. >> reporter: today it emed was t a time for regre. >> the decision i took, and frankly would take again,f there was any possibility that he could develop weapons of mass destruction, we should sto him. that was my vi then. thatas my view now. >>eporter: mr. bir has
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always defendedis position and he said he believes beyond dbt there were wmd and he remained defiant. >> it isn't about a lie or a consracy or a deceit or a deception. is a cision. the dision iad to take was, ven saddam's hitory, given his e of chemical weons, gin theover 1 miion people, given 1 years of breaking u.n. resolutions accordinwe take the risk of his remaking his programs or was that a rk rponsible to take? >> reporter: it was a matter of judgment, heaid. he thinks he me the right one. outside they don't. itv news, westminster. >> we've beenalking a lot this week about the other war in afghantan. dwrond oreach to the taliban, beyond the plans fo a large fund ofcash to try to win their
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support, it trns out that there haveeen secret talks going on betwn elements of th afghan government andthe opposition. as al jazeera english sws us, the talks are a worldway from the battleground of afghanistan. >> reporter: a trist haven and a luxury rsort it is an unlily setting fhe eakthrough in a bier war in afghanistan. but al jazeera was able to confirm thatital talks did indeed take place here last weekend. attended by afghan mps and government officialswith one of the main armed oosition groups fiting alongside the taliban. the leader sent hison to the talks and it was agreed, he would lead a delegation to enga the most senior xhanlders of the talan to discuss reconciliation with the afghan government. anmp who just arrived back from the tas told al jazeera, seven men with close lks to the
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taliban we also presen all of them held in high respect by the taliban's leader. >> we are tryingo find a third way. a wabetween all the groups involv. a way for the foreigners to lee. the possibity of mergi the talin with the government. the possibility of a cease fi. ere are lots of issu i won't talk abo now. >> reporter: t choice of these in theiddle of the indian ocean was tan because it was the only place the figers attending felt safe. the turists came as the commanders were taken off a u.n. black list. thisan who used to be a liban deputy minist only heard his name had beenremoofl from the.n.'s black list when he heard it on the radio last night. told us about the corrosive effect of being onhat list. >> translator: t cat may be a ry weak animal. but if yo chase it and pt it againsthe wall with no means of escape, it will turn bac d
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atta you. >> reporr: the u.n. security council that remove his name d four others om the black list made the decision to coincide wit president karzai's outreach program. >> those who are not part it as i menoned earlier, who are not part o al qaeda and othe, wh are the sons o afghan soil anwho are in thounds and thousands an thousand they have to be reintegrat and ey are welcome toe reintegrated. >> reporter:he oounl black list stillontains the names of 140 taliban mmanders, some of wh aren the american li of killr capture list. past experience hasshown that efforts get themround the negotiing table have prov very dngerous for them. a major offensive isbout to be launched in theudden hearand in helmond by bothu.s. and british troops. the cost ofpresident obama's inforcements is put at $1
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million pe soldier per yea that is $30 billion in the next 12 months. al jazeera, kab. as we turn to ts week' roundtab discussion, we're gointoocus entily on afghantan this evening. at yeerday's london conference and beyond, there was renewed talk this wee of trying to negotiate an end to the lng war inafghanistan. joining us once again tonight, gideon rose, managing editorof reign affairs magazine and james rubin,n adjunct profe professor at the school of public affairs and a former sistant the secretary ostate in the clion administraon. thank yovery much for joing us. >> to see youboth againhere. we just saw that spo abouthe secret negotiations tha have taken ple. out reinteating the taliban. where do you s this oing? you see this going veryfar?
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>> well, i think therare two tracks. a military track and a diplomic track. e general mcchrystal who has gotten the troop that h says he needs toeverse the taliban'momentum wants to work with the diploma to synchronize the tracks. ani thinkhe idea he is thatf there is in the coming couple of months, as there is expected t be aajor nato offensive, and the taliban really sees th they have no chance of really winning, if the feelers are put out in the meantimeand the doors opened and karzai andhe west and all the ternational communy is showg that there is some middle ground fo them, that is the best cance to use a combinatioof diplomacy and force to end t war on, this is crial, on terms that are acceptable because allowing the taliban back io government is o thing. allowi the taliban style of govement is somethin else that is notacptable.
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i think both to the afghan peoples a wle and to the unt natial community. >> given mechanics of is, how would this work? who would we be talkg to? and do y think this cane accomplished? i think if a lot is unclear here. what make it even more complicates the fact there are different strategies bei pursued by differe players. if they haveeen in fav of reintegratioof lower level foot soldis, mid level officials and forth, peeng off or co-ment onning the insurgent forces, for example, so of those karzai has been talkinabout are much graer themselves involve not just reconciliation, you hear tks about ending the war. me kinld of peace deal. i think it isnrealistic to expect that we'reoing toee the war d with some ki of compromised deal. ereas it is more realtic -- >> you don't think th is going to ba strategy that will bring pee to afghanistan. i don't buy it.
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>> i don't thk there will be a peace conference. there won'te a peace conference witglaul omar and karzai and the internaonal commity. i do think iis possible that the different strains of the taliban will be responded tin diffent ways. there will be those who a irreconcilable, connected with alaeda. mullah omar, would put in th camp. then there are those atarious times who he supported the taliban leadership but see the writing on the wall that th u.s.ill stay. then there a those thatideon was talking about primarily that are not ideological taliban at are fighting for whatever reason, thatan see a better deal with the west. so there are threeifferent kinds of taiban. and i think r dferent strokes for differentfos. >>o what do youthink, is ts an opportunityor then?
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>> i am somewhat cical about this. in a positive way, i see this as the use of carrots to divide and conquer various insurgent groups and essentially help w thear or me progress in the war by reducing your enemy to the absolu die hard components, who cannotn any way,shape or rm be co-opted. essentially, all this the sensible appach to try to co-opt, reingrate, bring back in from the cold any members of the insurgcy or oppositn who could possibly be lived ith. who are willing to renounce violence and willino accept the afghan nstitution. those should be th only things that we hold out on. anybody else who agreesith at, bring them back in. but then you're gog to be left wi some groups that you'll to have actually fight. so thiis part of the process of fiting the war, rather than a route to soing it or ending it. what would th incentive b r these groups? these different factionsthese dierent elements to come to the ble and to make pce or
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take money to make peace? >> think it is both negati and positive incentive. that's why theffensive is really important. if the taliban, all of the different groups are convinced that nato there to stay for an extended perd, that ey are determin to operat militari across the country, and reverse the momentum th talibahave created. you crte a negativeincentive. they'll stop getting killed. they'll stop facing this very powerful nato for that is growing there. on t positive side, i think it dends. there are suestions that ey will be integration funds for jobs, for local governan, say the pasht associated with the taliban. i think the hardest part of this is coincing the afghan peopl both taliban,ntaliban, and the kari government that re
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in this for long enough, that they can't wait u out. that's why this spring offensive is so important and the words that the west uses are so important. >> theinteresting part about it, the amican people he to be convinced this is worth doin so t effort can be sustainabl simplysaying wre in thisor the lo haul won't work if e american domestic support for e operation evaporates smuch thathe administraon is forced to cave. so some kind of progre and even, fnkly, the pledge to star pulling out in 2011 is i think part of the obama adminiration's careful ggling strategy t convince americans that this not an open-ended separang wound burk rather sometng that's a sustainable, viabloperation that cts will be kept. you're trying to tell americs, u won't pay too much forever but you're trng toell the locals, don't worry, we're here, we're going to stay and support you. the d guys, you can't jus wait us out.
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a tough balance to walk. anhopefully they c walk it. >> thank you. great to see y. thank you. in theiddle east, the militant palestinianroup hamas accused israeli agents of assassinatinone of the founders of its military wing. hamas identified a has ficial said that he ha been pooned and electrocuted in a hotel roomin dubai. the man was buried today at a fugee campn years. i can't his brother said that he d survived two previous asssination attempts by israel. the most recent, six months ago hamasaid that he was involved in the killing of two israeli soldiers i 1989 some economic new from around the world this evening. although japanontinues to recover from the receion with exports and factory orders, one key onomic threat remains.
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that is flation. the decline in prices th threatened workers'ages and forces consume to put off purchases. vernment figures out "today" show that lastonth consume pric fell 1.3%. the biggt drop since japan's nsumer pricendex began 4 yes agon 1970. japan central bank has said overcoming deflation a critical challenge. ineurope, in is country, umploymentontinues to be auge concern. the unemploymt rate in the 1 cotries that u the euro as their currency rose to 10% last rning up slightly from nomber. in the brder european union, estonia continueto suffer the most with22.8% unemploynt. in spain, the nuer rose to 19.5%. e lost unemployment was in the netherlds at4%, followed by austria at 5.4%.
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and from russia, this story caught ourttention about hard times in theity southwestf moscow. the city owne company that maintains the statuef vladimir lenin has gone bankrupt and has repairs th would cost almost $50,000. the relic of the old siet union habeen put up forsale. therice has not been disclosed. at the wld economi forum in switzerland today, bill and melinda gates announced their foundation wou give $10 billion over the next decade to velop and dliver vaccines to developing countri. the goals to save the lives of
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8 miion children in that ti frame. the cause of those suffering from the rent earthquake in haiti is al getting conserable attention at the forum in switzeand. yesterday,ormer president bill clinton ma another appeal for support telling buness and potical leaders that the need for cash more th anything el. >> this is an portunity to reagine the future f the haitian people, to balled country that they want to become instead of to rebuild what they ed to be. have toget through the emergency. west virginia to g have to get it organized an to get the rightupport. i inviteou to be aart of that. >> in haiti, doctors and ai rkers say they are running dangerouslylow on supplies including antibiotics. one of the big fears is that diseaseill spread and there are alady reports of growing number of cases of arrhea. tonight, 17 days after the
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earthquake ruck, we return to iti whereonah of al jazeera english found a deepening medical emergency. >> reporter:inside and out, iti'sospitals are inunded with pients being treated in the openair. one of the mt daunting tasks for medical aff, many wo volunteered to come here fm abad, is to contain the spread of infect ong wounds that have festered untreated for too long. >> you're going to have a lot of people that willie from inction. they alrea have fever and they're not being treated properly themselv don't know how to do it. they don't have enou help. the docts iide, the rses ar overwheed. we'rtrying our best but there are thousands of people there. >> reporter:or him reiving help here, thegony shou pass. things shod have been worse shelf has her family wither.
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looking on, her6-year-old son who was rescue from the ruins of the home now it is not just to get well but to avoid gtting rse. >> in ts sittion, we should expect that we have infection because there are people wi open wounds, tre are a problem with sanition, and weould have rain. >> reporter: the rain aren't due for anotherwo months b already scattered shows have fallen. the big rry is heavy ran, sending water tumbling down the higher slopes of the city, piing up dirt, wavgts and e decay of ad bodies trappe in e rubble as itoes and finally ending up he ending up in stagnant pools among living where thousands huddle in makeshift camps. on the dryearth, some ornized, many more
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spontaneously put up, the threat ofnfection is joined by the danger o disease. rain water here could bring fresh calamity, a with the need for better shelter and conditions only sloly bng met, t two-month wdowefore the rainy starts los very small indeed. jazeera, port-au-prince. finally night, let's end the week on a differentnote. we're going to te you to patagonia in the souern tip of argenta where the only battl gog on is theoccasional rivalry betwn some of the miion of penguins tat have ken up residence thereach year. julia went back for our partner global post and recenally completed r report on th fainating life and times of the penguins.
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>> rorter: driving along the coasof patagonia you' see sandy eas for miles. the la thing would you expect to see is a pair of nguins. nearly 2 millio penguins swim here. >> with the samepair. >> reporter: shes a pengu biologist. like sharing yourife with them. >> reporter: penguin life n be ke watching a soap opera. lots of ama. there are battles lke this called bill els. with winners and loser
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the male hasto buildhe best nest to attract the females. they mate for life, well, stly. a couple tt knows each other's habits can synconize their movements. it is a struggle to provide enough food, warmth and slter for thr chicks. not all of them make it. it is a survival pectacle. onehat 150,000 touris come every yearo see. >> people justove em. >> reporter: but peoplean add their struggles. >> they dot know thselves getreally excited. all the pengui when they s them, sometime they step on the nests beuse there are nests on e trail. >> reporter: that addedtress ishat cecilia studying. the colony s only been open for nine years so it a good place to study the impact of people on the wild birds. newly paved roads and cise shs are bringingore crowds to patagonia. the much laer colony to the south is set to bcome the third largest tourist attraction. but 30 years ago, it was muc
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harder tget to and penguins were much more skid ish. penguins are lucky to have visitors themselves provide economiccentives for conservation. e penguins need protection. overall, the scies populatio is in decline. scientists thinklimate change mit be a factor. although there isn't a melng ice pa here, warmer ocean currents are disrupting the food chain. penguins to have swim fartr to find food for tir young. so assess yield sa it is go for ople to come sit but it is better if they find enronmentally friendly ws to get ere. th is "worldfocus" this friday eveni and for this we. there's a lot more newand perspective our website at i'm daljithaliwal in new york.
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